Article 69 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news2.best.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.he.net!cnn.nas.nasa.gov!news.hawaii.edu!not-for-mail From: Jim Thomas Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS-10 maintainers' initials Date: 28 Jun 2000 13:46:39 -1000 Organization: Canada France Hawai`i Telescope Lines: 187 Message-ID: References: <39558825.9597CD60@dvorak.amd.remove.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: atlas.cfht.hawaii.edu X-Trace: news.hawaii.edu 962236000 2965 128.171.80.135 (28 Jun 2000 23:46:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@hawaii.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Jun 2000 23:46:40 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.6 Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:69 Here's the current version: List of initials seen on TOPS-10 monitor and CUSP sources CJA Carl Appelloff (?) RCB Raun (Spider) Boardman VJB Vern Brownell DLC Larry Campbell (sp?) TMC T. Michael Church (LNS/MIT) RCC Bob Clements PFC Peter Conklin WXD William Davenport JLd Jim delaHoussaye DBD Doug Detroy MD Monique Duhamel JAD Joseph Anthony (Tony) Dziedzic TWE Tom Eggers DCE Dave Elkund JE John Everett JMF Jim Flemming CMF Craig M. Fletcher (also CF?) EGF Ed Fortmiller AF Alan Frantz MF Mauritz (Maury) Fredriksen JNG Mike Gilbert RPG Richard (Dick) Gruen PAH Pat A. Hardy JCH John Hallyburton TH Tom Hastings TAH Ted Hess RDH Bob Houk BAH Barb Huizenga PMH Peter Hurley (also PH? - or was that someone else?) MHK Mark Keplien KK Karen Kolling TK Teunis Korteweg AK-DAG Alan Kotok & Dave Gross TL Tony Lauck DAL Don Lewine SML Sandy Libman DRL Dave Lyons AHM Alan Martin WEM Todd Matson DMcC Dave McClure TNM T. N. McManus DPM Don Mastrovito SMM Steve Meidel SRM Sara Murphy DZN Dave Neff TARL Tarl Neustaedter WGN Wick Nichols DMN David Nixon CDO Chuck O'Toole S?P Steve Pavola EP Eric Peabody RAP Alan Pommer KMR Karen M. Rabideau EAR Ernie Racine AJR Anthony Rizzolo LSS Larry Samberg JBS John Sauter EVS Ernie Socci JHT Jeff Talmadge (sp?) NT Nick Tamburri (?) JNT Jim Thomas (Nothead) DRT Don Todd GMU (George) Mike Uhler TW Tony Wachs LW Larry Wade EJW Ric Werme HPW H. P. Weiss CHW Chris White (?) AW Alan Wilson DAW Don Witcraft KBY Kimo Yap PY Paul Young EY Ed Yourdon Need Names: DJB ? GSB ? MFB ? MRB ? JBC ? MCHC ? VJC ? CBD ? HD ? NED ? RLD ? BGE ? (Bernie Eiben?) CF ? (Craig Fletcher?) JEF ? MCF ? RJF ? JBG ? JEG ? RDG ? RG ? SSG ? GBH ? GH ? RKH ? TNH ? WLH ? DML ? DRL ? RL ? (Richard Lary?) WCL ? CAM ? (Chuck McComas?) CM ? (Chuck McComas?) EGM ? (Eric Magrath?) MJM ? RCM ? WJM ? WM ? CGN ? LLN ? (Laura Neff?) KDO ? HMP ? JMP ? NGP ? OP ? CMQ ? AVR ? GDR ? KR ? LCR ? RCR ? TXR ? BGS ? DAS ? ERS ? JCS ? LWS ? WRS ? JMT ? MAT ? PMV ? PMW ? WFW ? Need initials used (guesses to right): Al Blackington Don Black DLB? Sumner Blount GSB? Len Bosack Bob Bowering Rick Corbin Kent King Rich Krasin RLK? Frank Natoli W. O'Neill Serge Polevitzky SAP? Nick Pappas NGP? Dave Plummer Kalman Reti KR? Hanley Strapman Donalene Trafton R.G. Underwood P. Watt PMW? W. Weiher WFW? Paul (?) Wexelblat (sp?) Pete Wilson PMW? Ken Young FORTRAN folks NEA Norma Able AlB Al (Alan Eugene) Blackington (second time around) PLB Phil Budne JLC John Campbell FJI Frank Infante RVM Randy Meyers CDM Charlie McCutcheon CKS Chris Smith TFV Tom (Thomas Francis Michael) Vasak Sarah Murphy appears above Not DEC, Stevens from TECO GSB Gary Brown RCM Robert C. McQueen JMP John Potachnak Article 55 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news2.best.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-245-207 From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS-10 maintainers' initials Date: Wed, 28 Jun 00 07:43:51 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 105 Message-ID: <8jckhl$j3s$1@bob.news.rcn.net> References: <39558825.9597CD60@dvorak.amd.remove.com> X-Trace: m5X+0odpvtQf5rUmMBoMCItMaQUI0Y3M1vBeHz3vV9A= X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Jun 2000 10:37:41 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:55 In article , jeverett@wwa.DEFEAT.UCE.BOTS.com (John Everett) wrote: >In article , >thomas@atlas.cfht.hawaii.edu says... >> >>With the help of some lists from Phil Budne (mahalo) and previous posts, >>here's the current version. > >Quite an impressive list. Yup. I hadn't realized there had been that many people. >>SRM Sara Murphy > >Wife of Dan Murphy, "Father of TOPS-10" I beg your pardon? > >>DZN Dave Neff >>AW A. Wilson (?) > >Alan "Pete" Wilson??? Nope. There was a Pete Wilson, but he left sometime in 1972 or 73. Alan Wilson was the guy who did the 1091, ala, Alan Titcomb, when nobody else would let the project get funded. > >>KBY Kimo Yap > >Or was this Ken Young?? Nope. KBY is Kimo; he's on the left coast these days. >>BGE ? > >Bernie Eiben?? I don't remember. > >>CF ? > >Craig Fletcher??? I should remember his but can't at the moment. I got to work for him...twice. > >>CMF ? >>KK ? > >First name "Karen", now who can come up with the last name??? Right. I'm going to be spelling it wrong...Kolling, Kollen? >>EGM ? Possibly, Eric Magrath. >>EP ? > >Eric Peabody?? Yeah... >>DRT ? > >Donalene Trafton??? Nope, this was Don's. >>Rich Krasin > >RLK??? (BAH should know this one!) Yup, I should. But I'm having a lot of problems with my memory retrieval these days :-). > >>Frank Natoli >>W. O'Neill >>Serge Polevitzky > >SAP??? > >>Nick Pappas NGP? >>Dave Plummer >>Kalman Reti KR? >>Larry Samberg LSS/LWS? > >I'm pretty sure Larry was LSS. Yup. It was. Since he was the other GALAXY inventor, his name and initials should be sprinkled all over all of the GALAXY modules...unless somebody sanitized those, too. //BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. Article 72 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news1.best.com!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!wn4feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.20!wnmasters3!bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Nylander@I_HATE_SPAM_EMAIL_worldnet.att.net (Chip Nylander) Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS-10 maintainers' initials Message-ID: <395aad1f.3812921@netnews.worldnet.att.net> References: X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Lines: 22 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 02:22:32 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.79.179.184 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 962245352 12.79.179.184 (Thu, 29 Jun 2000 02:22:32 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 02:22:32 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:72 CGN was *me*. Charles ("Chip" to those who knew me) G. Nylander. Hi BAH, remember me? Probably not. I was unremarkable. You were always nice, though. Others that I know that I don't think have been provided in previous replies: RL Roger Lipsett EGM Evelyn McCarthy WCL William (Bill) C. Lynch DJB David Bell (probably) LCR L. Carlos Rodriguez EAR Ernie Racine VJC Victor Coppella (probably) LLN Laura Neff (where is David Neff? Did he never touch TOPS-10?) I'm a bit surprised at the initials that aren't in the list. Where is Don Dossa, Ira Machefsky, K.P. Young, Ed Fortmuller, CLRH, and others I expected to see? Article 78 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news2.best.com!news1.best.com!feeder.via.net!news.he.net!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!sn-inject-01!corp.supernews.com!barn.net1plus.com!127.0.0.1 From: "Me (again)" Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS-10 maintainers' initials Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 06:18:43 -0400 Organization: ARSCC Lines: 14 Message-ID: <4b8mlsor5ckrcbqprojvcrq0r324qje4u1@4ax.com> References: <395aad1f.3812921@netnews.worldnet.att.net> Reply-To: ...OTs will know where...Try Gold Base... X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:78 On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 02:22:32 GMT, Nylander@I_HATE_SPAM_EMAIL_worldnet.att.net (Chip Nylander) wrote: >DJB David Bell (probably) > >I'm a bit surprised at the initials that aren't in the list. Where is >Don Dossa, Ira Machefsky, K.P. Young, Ed Fortmuller, CLRH, and others >I expected to see? > DJB was NOT Dave Bell. DBell's full name is David Roger Ingals Bell. (Don't even ask how I know...) a.k.a. Buzzard. He used DIB as his initials, IIRC. CLRH is still married to KP Young, and still, as far as I know, living in the development in Hudson Mass that's right behind the HLO buildings. Article 86 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news1.best.com!newsfeed.mathworks.com!wn3feed!worldnet.att.net!wnmasters3!bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Nylander@I_HATE_SPAM_EMAIL_worldnet.att.net (Chip Nylander) Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS-10 maintainers' initials Message-ID: <395c1a5e.2971951@netnews.worldnet.att.net> References: <395aad1f.3812921@netnews.worldnet.att.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 Lines: 29 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 03:56:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.79.180.83 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 962337368 12.79.180.83 (Fri, 30 Jun 2000 03:56:08 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 03:56:08 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:86 CLRH was "Charlotte L. Richardson Houde". She did enough "stuff" that I had expected to see her initials in the list of maintainers. An energetic maintainer. As a previous reply pointed out, she was last seen happily married to Paul Young in Hudson, MA (which I suppose makes her CLRHY now....). In the 1970's I was too young and inexperienced in the ways of the working world to realize what a gem of a colleague CLRH was. Oh that all the people I work with now could be so good-natured and energetic at the same time. Jim Thomas wrote: >>>>>> "Chip" == Chip Nylander writes: > > Chip> RL Roger Lipsett .... > >Thanks for the additions. > > Chip> I'm a bit surprised at the initials that aren't in the list. > Chip> Where is Don Dossa, Ira Machefsky, K.P. Young, Ed Fortmuller, > Chip> CLRH, and others I expected to see? > >Initials for the first two? I seem to remember "CLRH" but no name shows up >to go with that :-( Name? > >Nothead Article 91 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news2.best.com!news1.best.com!feeder.via.net!news.he.net!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!sn-inject-01!corp.supernews.com!barn.net1plus.com!127.0.0.1 From: R.J.S. Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS-10 maintainers' initials Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:37:53 -0400 Organization: Very Organized Lines: 6 Message-ID: <83uolsg36mct8ctpiu9p1g6sql5o3hr1nl@4ax.com> References: X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:91 On 23 Jun 2000 16:21:58 -1000, Jim Thomas wrote: DDB David Dyer-Bennet Article 112 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news1.best.com!newsfeed.mathworks.com!europa.netcrusader.net!207.172.3.37!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-255-43 From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS-10 maintainers' initials Date: Tue, 04 Jul 00 08:46:17 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 33 Message-ID: <8jsigf$5ss$1@bob.news.rcn.net> References: <39558825.9597CD60@dvorak.amd.remove.com> <3960F131.336C925B@MA.UltraNet.Com> X-Trace: DmyFAsK3vZ/3JAKCZ/L3L16jAUCVuKoCfEnnqmeKx/4= X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Jul 2000 11:41:03 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:112 In article <3960F131.336C925B@MA.UltraNet.Com>, "Alan H. Martin" wrote: >John Everett wrote: >> >> In article , >> thomas@atlas.cfht.hawaii.edu says... >.... >> >Need Names: >.... >> >BGE ? >> >> Bernie Eiben?? > >Absolutely. Not necessarily. I don't remember Bernie doing code. What was Brucie baby's initials? >> >Don Witcraft >> >> DAW > >Dave Wright was (also?) DAW. Nope. Dave was a late comer. If he had the same initials that had already been used, the rule was that he would have to pick a unique set. That's why you really can't match real names to initials and why Magee's file is valuable. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. Article 113 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news1.best.com!newsfeed.mathworks.com!europa.netcrusader.net!207.172.3.37!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail From: "Alan H. Martin" Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS-10 maintainers' initials Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 12:07:04 -0400 Lines: 79 Message-ID: <39620BA8.7C52A145@MA.UltraNet.Com> References: <39558825.9597CD60@dvorak.amd.remove.com> <3960F131.336C925B@MA.UltraNet.Com> <8jsigf$5ss$1@bob.news.rcn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: 4/LSukpoUzpeFF45GC6UZ9Ci3N3Y1TAgkLObCycQLNQ= X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Jul 2000 16:08:44 GMT X-Accept-Language: en,en-US,en-GB,es X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:113 jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > In article <3960F131.336C925B@MA.UltraNet.Com>, > "Alan H. Martin" wrote: > >John Everett wrote: > >> > >> In article , > >> thomas@atlas.cfht.hawaii.edu says... > >.... > >> >Need Names: > >.... > >> >BGE ? > >> > >> Bernie Eiben?? > > > >Absolutely. > > Not necessarily. ... Not only do I have a BGE EMail alias for Bernie dating to the mid-80's, the ``Regarding'' header below demonstrates that *he* thought that his middle initial was G on 12-Oct-83: " 26-Oct-83 13:48:21,1284;000000000011 Sender: VASAK Date: 26 Oct 1983 1448-EDT From: Tom Vasak To: EIBEN at MARKET cc: AMartin at MRFORT, Dyer-Bennet at KL2137, Hardy at KL2137, Nourse at KL2137 Reply-to: Vasak at MRFORT Subject: Re: BBOARD program Message-ID: <"MS10(2124)+GLXLIB1(1137)" 11962622553.14.56.167816 at MRFORT> Regarding: Message from B.G.Eiben LCG-Applications ext 617-467-4431 of 12-Oct-83 1912-EDT In-reply-to: <"MS10(2124)+GLXLIB1(1136)" 11959000576.23.558.56186 at DEC-MARLBORO> ... " >... I don't remember Bernie doing code. SEAL-20 security package, at least. He also gets credit to this day for contributions to KERMIT. Was it Bernie who wrote and distributed their own text editor? > >> >Don Witcraft > >> > >> DAW > > > >Dave Wright was (also?) DAW. > > Nope. ... Dave made 155 edits signed DAW in FORHST.MAC alone, and DEC licensed and shipped his SITGO contributions signed DAW while still in college. >... Dave was a late comer. ... 37 of the edits predating the sole BAH edit 1507 of 4-Jun-81. /AHM/QED -- Alan Howard Martin AMartin@MA.UltraNet.Com Article 115 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news1.best.com!feeder.via.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-255-247 From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS-10 maintainers' initials Date: Wed, 05 Jul 00 08:06:15 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 66 Message-ID: <8jv4hk$nbn$1@bob.news.rcn.net> References: <39558825.9597CD60@dvorak.amd.remove.com> <3960F131.336C925B@MA.UltraNet.Com> <8jsigf$5ss$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <39620BA8.7C52A145@MA.UltraNet.Com> X-Trace: 6zHjrQoY1UL3DX8Rs1Khn7+k/RgkXtRWu3/efKXzksE= X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Jul 2000 11:01:08 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:115 In article <39620BA8.7C52A145@MA.UltraNet.Com>, "Alan H. Martin" wrote: >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> >> In article <3960F131.336C925B@MA.UltraNet.Com>, >> "Alan H. Martin" wrote: >> >John Everett wrote: >> >> >> >> In article , >> >> thomas@atlas.cfht.hawaii.edu says... >> >.... >> >> >Need Names: >> >.... >> >> >BGE ? >> >> >> >> Bernie Eiben?? >> > >> >Absolutely. >> >> Not necessarily. ... > >Not only do I have a BGE EMail alias for Bernie dating to the mid-80's, >the ``Regarding'' header below demonstrates that *he* thought that his >middle initial was G on 12-Oct-83: So what? Don't you read what I write these days? I'll repeat that initials that went into listings didn't necessarily match a person's birth name. Now, Eiben's initials may have been put into listings. I'm just documenting 1. the tradition and 2. what I remember about who did what when. >>... I don't remember Bernie doing code. > >SEAL-20 security package, at least. >He also gets credit to this day for contributions to KERMIT. And he also gave TW some code fixes once with the request to not include his initials. >> >> >Don Witcraft >> >> >> >> DAW >> > >> >Dave Wright was (also?) DAW. >> >> Nope. ... > >Dave made 155 edits signed DAW in FORHST.MAC alone, and DEC licensed >and shipped his SITGO contributions signed DAW while still in college. I noticed you dele'd the text, leaving just a denial. Tsk, tsk. > > >>... Dave was a late comer. ... > >37 of the edits predating the sole BAH edit 1507 of 4-Jun-81. And that by my definition is a latecomer. Now, what else do want to argue about? The color of the sky? /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. Article 130 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news2.best.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-245-242 From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS-10 maintainers' initials Date: Sat, 08 Jul 00 07:52:41 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 132 Message-ID: <8k70t6$qdd$1@bob.news.rcn.net> References: <39558825.9597CD60@dvorak.amd.remove.com> <3960F131.336C925B@MA.UltraNet.Com> <8jsigf$5ss$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <39620BA8.7C52A145@MA.UltraNet.Com> <8jv4hk$nbn$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <3966B77E.169BA2CD@MA.UltraNet.Com> X-Trace: TksRhEmHbI4DHDR0o1EqhwmPAGDqi7k9GmaVUyAHcU8= X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Jul 2000 10:48:06 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:130 In article <3966B77E.169BA2CD@MA.UltraNet.Com>, "Alan H. Martin" wrote: >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> >> In article <39620BA8.7C52A145@MA.UltraNet.Com>, >> "Alan H. Martin" wrote: >> >jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >> >> >> >> In article <3960F131.336C925B@MA.UltraNet.Com>, >> >> "Alan H. Martin" wrote: >> >> >John Everett wrote: >.... >> >Not only do I have a BGE EMail alias for Bernie dating to the mid-80's, >> >the ``Regarding'' header below demonstrates that *he* thought that his >> >middle initial was G on 12-Oct-83: >> >> So what? Don't you read what I write these days? I'll repeat >> that initials that went into listings didn't necessarily match >> a person's birth name. Now, Eiben's initials may have been >> put into listings. I'm just documenting 1. the tradition and >> 2. what I remember about who did what when. > >OK. Although since that "tradition" wasn't followed in all files at all >times, it's not an absolute help. ... But it would have been a better start because the file contained the "real" letter usage no matter what the developers' actual names were. > ... You may know what files were managed >with Magee's file; I don't (except when counterexamples show what >wasn't managed). The method was usually a word of mouth cooperation. When the "latecomer" era happened, quite a bit of that stopped. > >I do wonder what Bernie might have put in S.MAC (whose header started >this), if that's who that BGE refers to. I do seem to recall that Bernie didn't care for "credit". Credit also meant ownership of any problems the edit might have generated. If it was S.MAC, he might have had TW define some bits for diagnostics. Damn, I'm really getting to hate this disease. Bernie might have been involved in the SPEAR project or the TU70 project. That was about the time he haunted TW's office. Of course, I have no idea what was done during the years of 1973, 1974, and part of 1975 since I wasn't doing the monitor edit nor was my office in the monitor groups' area. > > >> >> >> >Don Witcraft >> >> >> >> >> >> DAW >> >> > >> >> >Dave Wright was (also?) DAW. >> >> >> >> Nope. ... >> > >> >Dave made 155 edits signed DAW in FORHST.MAC alone, ... >> >> I noticed you dele'd the text, leaving just a denial. Tsk, tsk. > >Here's your paragraph: > >"Nope. Dave was a late comer. If he had the same initials >that had already been used, the rule was that he would have >to pick a unique set. That's why you really can't match >real names to initials and why Magee's file is valuable." > >Let's consider those points: > >1. "Dave was a late comer." > >I can believe that some guy named "Don Witcraft" signed DEC PDP-10 >software with "DAW" before Dave Wright worked for LCG, not least because >"Don Witcraft" doesn't sound familiar to me and it sounds like he was >probably well before my time.. He was before my time :-). > >2. "If he had the same initials that had already been used, the rule > was that he would have to pick a unique set." > >A perfectly sensible rule, and if all PDP-10 software was developed by >people working bound by that rule, it would make things simpler. And it was a rule adhered to until the beginning of the disintegration edict. > >3. "That's why you really can't match real names to initials and why > Magee's file is valuable." > >Nothead wanted to know what Don Witcraft's signature was. >John Everett said Don signed DAW. >I said that Dave definitely signed DAW, regardless of what Don used. And Sara should have known better than that. She was of the era when Don Witcraft was around. > >118 of those DAW Fortran runtime edits were made while I was working in >the Fortran-10/20 group. > >0. "Nope." > >Was your point that Dave couldn't have signed DAW, or that Don couldn't >have signed DAW, or something else? Yes. > > >> >>... Dave was a late comer. ... >> > >> >37 of the edits predating the sole BAH edit 1507 of 4-Jun-81. >> >> And that by my definition is a latecomer. > >Fine by me. Are we talking FOROTS.MAC here? You should also remember that the PDP-10 product line was ended as of 1983. I don't remember Dave Wright making any FOROTS V5 edits. Now, interpret that statement to be "development of V5 FOROTS". The first I remember of Dave is working on V6 which was a complete rewrite of FOROTS. I sure don't remember doing an edit to V6 in 1980. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. Article 108 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news2.best.com!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail From: "Alan H. Martin" Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS-10 maintainers' initials Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 16:04:40 -0400 Lines: 24 Message-ID: <3960F1D8.720B3F9E@MA.UltraNet.Com> References: <39558825.9597CD60@dvorak.amd.remove.com> <8jckhl$j3s$1@bob.news.rcn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: 3N2fzIuZaS/Un1xBcKF2T+FgSGu/IvR8o7rjfVyPfyU= X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Jul 2000 20:06:14 GMT X-Accept-Language: en,en-US,en-GB,es X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:108 jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > In article , > jeverett@wwa.DEFEAT.UCE.BOTS.com (John Everett) wrote: > >In article , > >thomas@atlas.cfht.hawaii.edu says... ... > >>KK ? > > > >First name "Karen", now who can come up with the last name??? > > Right. I'm going to be spelling it wrong...Kolling, Kollen? (Definitely Kolling). > >>EGM ? > > Possibly, Eric Magrath. Absolutely. /AHM -- Alan Howard Martin AMartin@MA.UltraNet.Com Article 105 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news1.best.com!newsfeed.mathworks.com!feeder.qis.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail From: "Alan H. Martin" Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS-10 maintainers' initials Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 16:15:05 -0400 Lines: 31 Message-ID: <3960F449.70FDF191@MA.UltraNet.Com> References: <5kgilssnqq4sru55k5g2ea6grkfjlv4811@4ax.com> <8jcqtg$cbu$1@canard.ulcc.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: qnanXw9NLloEYwPWSym7+Kj5ixvyfsheUuH/RR73o+o= X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Jul 2000 20:16:42 GMT X-Accept-Language: en,en-US,en-GB,es X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:105 "Me (again)" wrote: > > On 28 Jun 2000 12:26:24 GMT, ronan@noc.ulcc.ac.uk (Ronan Flood) wrote: > > >"Me (again)" wrote: > > > >> HANLEY STRAPMAN, who was the person who actually wrote all of TOPS-10, > >> at least if you ask a member of the 4.07 users group. :-) > > > >Hanley M: that was the (fictitious?) name used in various programming > > Hanley M Strapman (HMS) was certainly not fictitious, after all, he wrote all the > programming examples, didn't he? :-) > This line worked very well when he was at the U of Arizona, where he wrote a rather large > number of SPRs on the -10 they had there (as well and the ANF network they were running, > with an ANF connection to the CDC systems, as well.) 1. Two "p"'s? Strappman. 2. An edit of Hanley's was once logged against LINK using the initials HAS. Eric Magrath ultimately changed the initials before shipment. 3. Favorite graffito: written in the inter-tile grouting above one of the urinals on MR1-2 (probably the northernmost men's room): Red ink: n't Blue ink: Hanley was here. ^ /AHM -- Alan Howard Martin AMartin@MA.UltraNet.Com Article 106 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.gblx.net!europa.netcrusader.net!207.172.3.37!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail From: "Alan H. Martin" Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS-10 maintainers' initials Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 16:20:22 -0400 Lines: 12 Message-ID: <3960F586.520C1B62@MA.UltraNet.Com> References: <39558825.9597CD60@dvorak.amd.remove.com> <5kgilssnqq4sru55k5g2ea6grkfjlv4811@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: UbKUQ+3psRwVhN1EkqZkPg0cvPQI50ObwIGniv9tkHY= X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Jul 2000 20:22:00 GMT X-Accept-Language: en,en-US,en-GB,es X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:106 "Me (again)" wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:45:30 GMT, jeverett@wwa.DEFEAT.UCE.BOTS.com (John Everett) wrote: > > What about JCH (John Hallyburton) Whose Tops-20 account name was QHALLYBURTON either because he got unique username/directory completion with Q, and/or because it sent his LPT output to the Q box (which no one else printed to). /AHM -- Alan Howard Martin AMartin@MA.UltraNet.Com Article 110 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news1.best.com!news2.best.com!cnn.nas.nasa.gov!news.hawaii.edu!not-for-mail From: Jim Thomas Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS-10 maintainers' initials Date: 03 Jul 2000 12:58:03 -1000 Organization: Canada France Hawai`i Telescope Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <39558825.9597CD60@dvorak.amd.remove.com> <5kgilssnqq4sru55k5g2ea6grkfjlv4811@4ax.com> <3960F586.520C1B62@MA.UltraNet.Com> NNTP-Posting-Host: atlas.cfht.hawaii.edu X-Trace: news.hawaii.edu 962665084 6961 128.171.80.135 (3 Jul 2000 22:58:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@hawaii.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Jul 2000 22:58:04 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.6 Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:110 >>>>> "Alan" == Alan H Martin writes: >> On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:45:30 GMT, jeverett@wwa.DEFEAT.UCE.BOTS.com (John Everett) wrote: >> What about JCH (John Hallyburton) Alan> Whose Tops-20 account name was QHALLYBURTON either because he got unique Alan> username/directory completion with Q, and/or because it sent his Alan> LPT output to the Q box (which no one else printed to). Harumph! They wouldn't let me have my printouts go to "Nothead" 'cause that wasn't my name. So I used "T,Nothead" :-) Article 147 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news1.best.com!news2.best.com!cnn.nas.nasa.gov!news.hawaii.edu!not-for-mail From: Jim Thomas Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS-10 maintainers' initials Date: 11 Jul 2000 14:37:51 -1000 Organization: Canada France Hawai`i Telescope Lines: 217 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: atlas.cfht.hawaii.edu X-Trace: news.hawaii.edu 963362271 6738 128.171.80.135 (12 Jul 2000 00:37:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@hawaii.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Jul 2000 00:37:51 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.6 Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:147 I was waiting for more input from Alan, but here's the current version :-) =================================== 8< ----------------------------------- List of initials seen on TOPS-10 monitor and CUSP sources CJA Carl Appelloff (?) DRB Dawn Banks DIB David (Dave) (Buzzard) Roger Ingals Bell DDB David Dyer-Bennet RCB Raun (Spider) Boardman LB Len Bosack VJB Vern Brownell DLC Larry Campbell (sp?) TMC T. Michael Church (LNS/MIT) RCC Bob Clements PFC Peter Conklin VJC Victor Coppella (?) WXD William Davenport JLd Jim delaHoussaye DBD Doug Detroy DHD Dan D'Urso (did he touch anything?) MD Monique Duhamel JAD Joseph Anthony (Tony) Dziedzic TWE Tom Eggers BGE Bernie Eiben DCE Dave Elkund JE John Everett JMF Jim Flemming CMF Craig M. Fletcher (also CF?) EGF Ed Fortmiller (sp?) AF Alan Frantz MF Mauritz (Maury) Fredriksen JNG John (Mike) Gilbert RPG Richard (Dick) Gruen PAH Pat A. Hardy JCH John Hallyburton TH Tom Hastings TAH Ted Hess RDH Bob Houk RKH Bob Hyatt BAH Barb Huizenga PMH Peter Hurley (also PH? - or was that someone else?) MHK Mark Keplien KK Karen Kolling TK Teunis Korteweg AK-DAG Alan Kotok & Dave Gross TL Tony Lauck DAL Don Lewine SML Sandy Libman RL Roger Lipsett or Ron Lusk (?) WCL William (Bill) C. Lynch DRL Dave Lyons EGM Eric Magrath WEM Todd Matson DMcC Dave McClure TNM T. N. McManus DPM Don Mastrovito SMM Steve Meidel SRM Sara Murphy DZN Dave Neff LLN Laura Neff TARL Tarl Neustaedter WGN Wick Nichols DMN David Nixon CGN Charles (Chip) G. Nylander CDO Chuck O'Toole S?P Steve Paavola EP Eric Peabody RAP Alan Pommer KMR Karen M. Rabideau EAR Ernie Racine TXR Tim Rentsch AJR Anthony Rizzolo LCR Luis Carlos Rodriguez LSS Larry Samberg JBS John Sauter (did he ever work for DEC? or just contracts?) WRS Bill Sears EVS Ernie Socci HMS Hanley Strap(p?)man (also HAS?) JHT Jeff Talmadge (sp?) NT Nick Tamburri (?) JNT Jim Thomas (Nothead) DRT Don Todd GMU (George) Mike Uhler TW Tony Wachs LW Larry Wade EJW Ric Werme HPW H. P. Weiss CHW Chris White (?) AW Alan Wilson DAW (?) Don Witcraft DAW Dave Wright KBY Kimo Yap KPY Ken (Kippy) P. Young PY Paul Young EY Ed Yourdon Need Names: DJB ? GSB ? MFB ? MRB ? JBC ? MCHC ? CBD ? HD ? NED ? RLD ? CF ? (also used by Craig Fletcher?) JEF ? MCF ? RJF ? ILG ? (Ingrid ??) JBG ? JEG ? RDG ? RG ? SSG ? CLRH ? GBH ? GH ? TNH ? WLH ? DML ? DRL ? CAM ? (Chuck McComas?) CM ? (Chuck McComas?) MJM ? RCM ? WJM ? WM ? KDO ? HMP ? JMP ? NGP ? OP ? CMQ ? AVR ? GDR ? KR ? RCR ? BGS ? DAS ? (David Stone?) ERS ? JCS ? LWS ? JMT ? (Jim Totten?) MAT ? PMV ? PMW ? WFW ? Need initials used (guesses to right): Valdene Alusik (sp?) (TOPS-20 only?) Don Black DLB? Sumner Blount GSB? Bob Bowering Rick Corbin (originator of the DATE75 SPR :-) Don Dossa Harris Hyman Kent King Rich Krasin RLK? Ira Machefsky Frank Natoli W. O'Neill Serge Polevitzky SAP? Nick Pappas NGP? Dave Plummer Kalman Reti KR? Cliff Romash Norm Samuals (did he touch any code?) Donalene Trafton R.G. Underwood P. Watt PMW? W. Weiher WFW? Paul (?) Wexelblat (sp?) Pete Wilson PMW? John Xenakis (did he ever do anything besides his PL/I and XSERV?) Communications ??? Rick Pottenger ??? Alan Warshaw FORTRAN folks (plus some languages in general) NEA Norma Abel AlB Al (Alan Eugene) Blackington (second time around) PLB Phil Budne JLC John Campbell CLRH Charlotte L. Richardson Houde FJI Frank Infante AHM Alan Martin CDM Charlie McCutcheon RVM Randy Meyers ??? Jim Mills (did he touch code?) CKS Chris Smith TFV Tom (Thomas Francis Michael) Vasak Sarah Murphy appears above Commercial ??? John Conner ??? Dana Lajoie (sp?) EGM Evelyn McCarthy ??? Sonya Reed Not DEC, Stevens from TECO GSB Gary Brown RCM Robert C. McQueen JMP John Potachnak Article 149 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news1.best.com!newsfeed.mathworks.com!europa.netcrusader.net!207.172.3.37!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-97-63 From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS-10 maintainers' initials Date: Wed, 12 Jul 00 08:39:35 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 101 Message-ID: <8khl66$sdn$2@bob.news.rcn.net> References: X-Trace: vJK05SRWmNl9PB+pi5kemjYhwu0Ghu8TICJLgfYePtM= X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Jul 2000 11:35:34 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:149 In article , Jim Thomas wrote: >I was waiting for more input from Alan, but here's the current version :-) > >=================================== 8< ----------------------------------- > >List of initials seen on TOPS-10 monitor and CUSP sources >JBS John Sauter (did he ever work for DEC? or just contracts?) AFAIR, he was strictly contract; but he sure did a whole lot of code. >NT Nick Tamburri (?) Yup. >CLRH ? This is Charlotte, isn't it? >MJM ? Mary Morotta. She was the last writer for TOPS-10. Just as a note: At some point, some body thought it would be a good idea for the writers to go over the comments in source listings and make it into English. And that's how some of their initials got in. There were a few who actually did some real work, and corrected error messages. And, now, I'm trying to remember the name of a writer who actually did some mods...Laurie Piper? She was killed in a car accident. She was a damn fine writer, had common sense. >DAS ? (David Stone?) I don't remember him doing any code. It would have to be in John's time frame. When I started Stone was already a manager, but I thought his background was exclusively small computers. >LWS ? I know who this but my brain is just not producing proper names today. Larry...We hired him from ORNL..twice. He did quite a bit of GALAXY work. Tall, blond. Shit, sorry, Larry. I just can't remember your last name. >JMT ? (Jim Totten?) Yup. Pretty sure. >PMW ? >Need initials used (guesses to right): > >Valdene Alusik (sp?) (TOPS-20 only?) >Don Black DLB? >Sumner Blount GSB? >Bob Bowering >Rick Corbin (originator of the DATE75 SPR :-) >Don Dossa >Harris Hyman >Kent King >Rich Krasin RLK? >Ira Machefsky >Frank Natoli >W. O'Neill >Serge Polevitzky SAP? >Nick Pappas NGP? >Dave Plummer >Kalman Reti KR? Yup. >Cliff Romash His initials are in DAEMON for sure. >Norm Samuals (did he touch any code?) No. He was just an idiot manager. >Donalene Trafton TW gave her the nickname Crash. >P. Watt PMW? Could this have been Pat White's initials? I can't believe that we forgot her. She did an awful lot of work. >John Xenakis (did he ever do anything besides his PL/I > and XSERV?) Nope. I think that's all he did. Before programming, wasn't he a writer? Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. Article 157 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news1.best.com!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.hawaii.edu!not-for-mail From: Jim Thomas Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS-10 maintainers' initials Date: 13 Jul 2000 09:15:35 -1000 Organization: Canada France Hawai`i Telescope Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <8khl66$sdn$2@bob.news.rcn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: atlas.cfht.hawaii.edu X-Trace: news.hawaii.edu 963515735 18791 128.171.80.135 (13 Jul 2000 19:15:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@hawaii.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Jul 2000 19:15:35 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.6 Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:157 >>>>> "/BAH" == jmfbahciv writes: >> CLRH ? /BAH> This is Charlotte, isn't it? Oops, missed deleting her out of the unknown initials list. >> Cliff Romash /BAH> His initials are in DAEMON for sure. Yup, gotem, CER. Unfortunately, looking at the DAEMON SUBTTL line got 7 more initials: RKB DBD RLD JSL ISM PMW TJW >> Donalene Trafton /BAH> TW gave her the nickname Crash. I remember that :-) Article 163 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.gblx.net!europa.netcrusader.net!207.172.3.37!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-102-136 From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS-10 maintainers' initials Date: Fri, 14 Jul 00 08:25:24 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 25 Message-ID: <8kmt44$7qa$2@bob.news.rcn.net> References: <8khl66$sdn$2@bob.news.rcn.net> <396e2947.0@news.kivex.com> X-Trace: M+kZ8F0WH0lVZpqS+kiaNxOjJ3EK3I/CcvLH/UdtMOo= X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Jul 2000 11:21:40 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:163 In article <396e2947.0@news.kivex.com>, "Phil Gagner" wrote: > wrote in message news:8khl66$sdn$2@bob.news.rcn.net... >> In article , >> Jim Thomas wrote: >> >=================================== >8< ----------------------------------- >> >LWS ? >> >> I know who this but my brain is just not producing proper >> names today. Larry...We hired him from ORNL..twice. He >> did quite a bit of GALAXY work. Tall, blond. Shit, sorry, >> Larry. I just can't remember your last name. >> >JMT ? (Jim Totten?) > >Larry Samberg? (I'm not sure of the spelling) Nope. The guy I'm thinking about is Larry Sendlosky. Thanks to Tarl and Tim Litt for the memory refresh. /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. Article 150 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.gblx.net!feeder.qis.net!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!sn-inject-01!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "cdo" Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS-10 maintainers' initials Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 19:43:03 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:150 [snip] > DBD Doug Detroy Didn't Doug also go by DD or D2 (as in D-squared). Mostly I remember "Doug Destroy", particularly related to the KS {more snip] > ILG ? - Irwin L. Goverman. Worked on Galaxy, and, to my everlasting shame, I dragged him into the MCS-10 mess. > MRB ? - Wasn't this Murray Berkowitz (Galaxy after my time.) /lss, is that right? [...] > Serge Polevitzky SAP? Arrrgh...after BATCON V11, SAP is what we called him, not sure if it was his initials ;-) > Norm Samuals (did he touch any code?) Don't think so, manager/supervisor type when I knew him. > Paul (?) Wexelblat (sp?) I think Paul went by WEX (sp is right) > John Xenakis (did he ever do anything besides his PL/I > and XSERV?) Well, he did write the winning program in the MOO tournament, does that count....;-) > /cdo Article 153 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news1.best.com!feeder.via.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!207-172-216-83 From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS-10 maintainers' initials Date: Thu, 13 Jul 00 08:16:07 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 40 Message-ID: <8kk86f$99k$1@bob.news.rcn.net> References: X-Trace: zlRV3EX4WbrkueJFs0IF/MdImrl27v0lG4ze0xG0H3o= X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Jul 2000 11:12:15 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:153 In article , "cdo" wrote: >[snip] > >> DBD Doug Detroy > >Didn't Doug also go by DD or D2 (as in D-squared). Mostly >I remember "Doug >Destroy", particularly related to the KS That nickname came from TW after Doug did something that broke the rest of the monitor. TW didn't give a shit what he did with the KS, but he certainly cared about what he did to the KL. > >{more snip] > >> ILG ? - Irwin L. Goverman. Worked on Galaxy, and, to my everlasting >shame, I dragged him into the MCS-10 mess. Yup. That's Irwin's. Oh, but what war stories came out of that MCS-10 mess. > >> MRB ? - Wasn't this Murray Berkowitz (Galaxy after my time.) /lss, is >that right? Maybe. It'ld be more help if we knew the module that the initials came from. > >[...] > >> Serge Polevitzky SAP? Arrrgh...after BATCON V11, SAP is what we called >him, not sure if it was his initials ;-) Was that his first project? /BAH Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail. Article 173 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news1.best.com!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail From: "Alan H. Martin" Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS-10 maintainers' initials Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 16:53:34 -0400 Lines: 24 Message-ID: <3970CF4E.599D9C84@MA.UltraNet.Com> References: <8khl66$sdn$2@bob.news.rcn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: DFHX3aCkwDfr+89Jcq8SiB1RpUM6ByxnJNsJ/rDUBHM= X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Jul 2000 20:55:37 GMT X-Accept-Language: en,en-US,en-GB,es X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:173 Jim Thomas wrote: > > >>>>> "/BAH" == jmfbahciv writes: ... >... Unfortunately, looking at the DAEMON SUBTTL line got 7 > more initials: > > RKB Rich Braun. > JSL I wonder if Jerry Leichter touched any PDP-10 code? I've only knew him after he could have. > TJW Ted Wojcik. /AHM -- Alan Howard Martin AMartin@MA.UltraNet.Com Article 174 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news2.best.com!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail From: "Alan H. Martin" Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS-10 maintainers' initials Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 17:29:07 -0400 Lines: 61 Message-ID: <3970D7A3.24C51EE@MA.UltraNet.Com> References: <8khl66$sdn$2@bob.news.rcn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: 60GitJxJG3SpT8i4GzqRYwSMaQZS2QDJtnt6CLR86QM= X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Jul 2000 21:31:10 GMT X-Accept-Language: en,en-US,en-GB,es X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:174 jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: > > In article , > Jim Thomas wrote: ... > >JBS John Sauter (did he ever work for DEC? or just contracts?) What code did those initials come from? They also match Jim Selders, who worked on Algol, DDT, and I don't know what else. > AFAIR, he was strictly contract; but he sure did a whole lot > of code. I never heard that John was contract while working on FMS (DECforms?), etc. He also wrote the VAX/VMS DST dumper. > >MJM ? > > Mary Morotta. She was the last writer for TOPS-10. Mary Marotta. Fix spelling. >... And, now, I'm trying to remember the > name of a writer who actually did some mods...Laurie Piper? > She was killed in a car accident. She was a damn fine writer, > had common sense. Who was the writer who was killed by a drunk driver going the wrong way down I-495 in Marlboro right outside the plant? Ron Anderson mentioned > >DAS ? (David Stone?) > > I don't remember him doing any code. It would have to be > in John's time frame. When I started Stone was already > a manager, but I thought his background was exclusively > small computers. David Stone's initials, possibly from the phone book, were DLS. Those match Deb Schmitt; did she touch any code? > >JMT ? (Jim Totten?) > > Yup. Pretty sure. Those match Jim Totton. Fix spelling. > >Need initials used (guesses to right): ... > >Sumner Blount GSB? Sumner's initials, possibly from the phone book, were SEB. /AHM -- Alan Howard Martin AMartin@MA.UltraNet.Com Article 178 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news1.best.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!152.163.239.131!portc03.blue.aol.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!skin02.micron.net!admin-srv3.micron.com!not-for-mail From: "Charlie Thompson" Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS-10 maintainers' initials Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 08:17:59 -0600 Organization: Micron technology VMS Lines: 18 Message-ID: <8l1otg$ajp$1@admin-srv3.micron.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: cthompson.micron.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:178 LWS is Larry Sendlosky. You'all hired him from SAIC in Oak Ridge into the group doing DECsystem-10 SPRs. I had stolen him from Jim Grossen at University of Tennessee (he still hates me for that). Then, he went back to ORNL and you got him again, but I was gone and lost track. Charlie Thompson Jim Thomas wrote in message ... >I was waiting for more input from Alan, but here's the current version :-) > >=================================== 8< ----------------------------------- > >List of initials seen on TOPS-10 monitor and CUSP sources >LWS ? Article 190 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news1.best.com!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!dc1.nntp.concentric.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!global-news-master From: Paul Wexelblat Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: TOPS-10 maintainers' initials Date: 19 Jul 2000 22:46:31 EDT Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 29 Message-ID: <39766807.D1082AD7@altavista.com> References: <8l1otg$ajp$1@admin-srv3.micron.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.173.12.18 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf To: Charlie Thompson Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:190 Sorry if this is off the subject or redundant - judging from the subj, most postings expired so I can't tell PMW is me (Monitor group from 6.04 to 7.00) from 6.x to 700 Paul Wexelblat remove bogus for email Charlie Thompson wrote: > LWS is Larry Sendlosky. You'all hired him from SAIC in Oak Ridge into the > group doing DECsystem-10 SPRs. I had stolen him from Jim Grossen at > University of Tennessee (he still hates me for that). Then, he went back to > ORNL and you got him again, but I was gone and lost track. > > Charlie Thompson > > Jim Thomas wrote in message ... > >I was waiting for more input from Alan, but here's the current version :-) > > > >=================================== 8< ----------------------------------- > > > >List of initials seen on TOPS-10 monitor and CUSP sources > > >LWS ? Article 3617 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news1.best.com!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.voicenet.com!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail From: "Alan H. Martin" Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: now - interest in multi-processing (SMP) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:20:17 -0500 Lines: 28 Message-ID: <3A995AF1.6635F2AA@MA.UltraNet.Com> References: <3A764A09.8FEE136B@digiweb.com> <3A78E586.8864B7C7@MA.UltraNet.Com> <3A7D0848.29678A56@mail.bcpl.net> <95lkti$15d3$1@nntp1.ba.best.com> <95lun5$204$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <3A859F62.4E6D22B@MA.UltraNet.Com> <3A85EC42.D2118443@MA.UltraNet.Com> <3A866359.38EDF560@mail.bcpl.net> <6usnlkolpx.fsf@chonsp.franklin.ch> <3A90A3FC.B0CD86E4@MA.UltraNet.Com> <3A90D76B.A3577EA0@mail.bcpl.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbq8doFTsXx2VW6axrTLi/N0FxsGVuLRLzGZ8Vp+7PaNyTvEL3tekvH X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Feb 2001 19:21:00 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en,en-US,en-GB,es Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:3617 Ken McMonigal wrote: > > "Alan H. Martin" wrote: ... > > Tenex was designed to accomodate SMP support: > > > > " > > to: DLM, DGB, RST, ERF, JRB, WRS, JIE, LC > > From: TRS > > Subject: TENEX-2, Coding Style > > Date: January 15, 1970 > > ... > > TRS = Theodore Strollo ? Since ``TENEX-1 SYSTEM OVERVIEW 1/15/70 UPDATE 11/3/70'' cites: 1. Strollo T.R., Tomlinson R.S., Fiala E.R., Elkind J.I., "The BBN Hybrid Processor," BBN Report No. 1598, 30 June 1968. -and- 3. Strollo, T.R., et al, Inserts 10, 11, 14, 15 and 16 to the PDP-10 System Reference Manual. that makes sense to me. /AHM -- Alan Howard Martin AMartin@MA.UltraNet.Com