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In article <8rq8ob$aqr$1@fe2.cs.interbusiness.it>, jk3380@naida.org says...
>
>Hi,
>
>I've been lurking for a long time now on this NG. Due to my age I've never
>touched a 10
>but have learnt to know lot  by your discussions.
>
>Is there a site with photos of the teams that worked on TOPS-10 and HW; I'd
>like to
>have a look at the people that did all this stuff when I was not even a
>teenager!

Somewhere recently (last couple of years or so) I've seen an old picture of a 
very young Bob Clements (RCC), but can't remember where. Actually there's a 
picture of me (http://www.wwa.com/~jeverett/racing/Sprite03.gif) taken in 
1972, when I was in the TOPS-10 Monitor Group. Picture's not PDP-10 related 
however.

There's also a picture somewhere of the KS-10 hardware team, but I don't know 
where that's located either.

I've never come across any other pictures of either the hardware or software 
development teams. 

-- 
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jeverett@wwa.DEFEAT.UCE.BOTS.com (John Everett) writes:
> In article <8rq8ob$aqr$1@fe2.cs.interbusiness.it>, jk3380@naida.org says...
> > Is there a site with photos of the teams that worked on TOPS-10 and
> > HW; I'd like to have a look at the people that did all this stuff
> > when I was not even a teenager!
> There's also a picture somewhere of the KS-10 hardware team, but I
> don't know where that's located either.

"The DECsystem-2020 development team."
http://www.dec.com/timeline/1978-2.htm


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John Everett <jeverett@wwa.DEFEAT.UCE.BOTS.com> wrote:
In article <JlnE5.325$gE2.24449@ord-read.news.verio.net>,
>>In article <8rq8ob$aqr$1@fe2.cs.interbusiness.it>, jk3380@naida.org says...
>>Is there a site with photos of the teams that worked on TOPS-10 and
>>HW; I'd like to have a look at the people that did all this stuff
>>when I was not even a teenager!
....
>Somewhere recently (last couple of years or so) I've seen an old picture of a 
>very young Bob Clements (RCC), but can't remember where.

http://www.inwap.com/pdp10/

Look in the section "Developers, DECUS, People";

There's also a photo of Jim Flemming (JMF) and Tony Wachs (TW) in
front of a 1091 (KL10 in a short blue cab).

>There's also a picture somewhere of the KS-10 hardware team, but I don't know 
>where that's located either.

http://www.inwap.com/pdp10/timeline.html
look down to 1978 for the 2020.
many photos.

>I've never come across any other pictures of either the hardware or software 
>development teams. 

There's a photo of the PDP-6 team.  I know I have hardcopies (one in a
DEC newsletter, and one in a glossy anniversary brochure I got Alan
Kotok to sign at his DEC retirement dinner).

I just put up a PDP-10 page of my own at www.ultimate.com/phil/pdp10/
which includes the entire LCG organization, taken on the 20th
anniversary of 36-bit systems (1984) and other tidbits I've collected.

I have some notes that must have come from some publication made that
year;

PDP-6 development team;

Harlan Anderson, VP of Eng
       Gordon Bell, System Architect
		Alan Kotok, Asst. Architect, Logic Designer
			Russ Doane, Circuits
			Ken Senior(?), Field Service
			Bob Reed, Technician
			Leo Gussall(?), Diagnostics
		Dit Morse, Software Project Leader
			Tom Hastings, Dave Gross; Monitor
			Harris Hyman, Steve Pinar; MACRO
			Tom Eggers; DDT
			Bell Segal; Utilities
			Peter Sampson, Al Blackington; FORTRAN
			Ed Yourdon (yep, that one); LOADER

[Ironicly, I was working for Al Blackingington at the time, who had
returned to DEC, to work on .... FORTRAN!]


================
TOPS-10 Evolution

1964-66	1.4-1.9	PDP-6 Support, DECtape only, 27 jobs (UFA, 1 bit per job)
1967	2.18	KA support, disk support, shuffler
1968	3.27	swapping, 36 jobs (using JFFO)
1969	4.50	dual segments
	4.72	CCL, 63 jobs
1970	5.01	TOPS-10, Disk Service rewrite (Phase I)
1971	5.02	MPB (batch), RTTRP (real time), Disk Service rewrite (phase II)
1972	5.03	1055 multiprocessor (dual KA)
	5.04	KI support
1973	5.05	1077 support (dual KI)
	5.06	SFDs (subdirectories)
1974	5.07/6.01
		KL support, VM, IPCF (interprocess communication)
1975	6.02	1088 support (dual KL), class shced, RP04/6
		ENQ/DEQ (resource locking), Galaxy I (spooling)
1977/78	6.03/A	1091 (MOS memory, RH20), ANF (PDP-10 comm network)
		FILDAE (file access daemon)
1979	7.00	SMP (limited)
1980/82	7.01/A	SMP (full), logical names, Galaxy 4.1
1984	7.02	DECnet-10 Phase III

================

KA teams, 1967

Hardware:
	Alan Kotok
	Bob Clements
	Dave Gross
	Bill English (documentation)

Software:
	Tom Hastings
	Tony Wachs
	Dave Plummer
	Don whitcraft
	Alan Frantz
	Pat White
	Valdeane Alusic
	Penny Land
	Mauri Fredrickson
	Joe Fries
	Nick Pappas
	Tom Eliot (documentation)

================
PDP-6 SOftware - 1965

T/S monitor	5K
DECtape editor	1K
FORTRAN II	10K to 22K
FORSE		1.5K		(fortran runtime)
MACRO		9K
Loader		1K
DDT		3K
PIP		1K

================
PDP-6 User's Guide (Entire)

IJOB		Initialize Job
PJOB		Print Job number
KJOB		Kill Job
CORE n		Allocate core for JOB
GET dev:file	Load program into core
SAVE dev:file
START loc
CONTINUE
DDT
ASSIGN dev:
^C		(could be typed with one hand - tom hastings)
<rubout>

================
DECtape editor commands;

SX,name		select "name" on DECtape unix X
In		insert line at n
Pn		print line at n
E		end of session

================
BBN TENEX team;

Ted Strollo, Project Supervisor
	Jerry Birchfield, Ray Tomlinson; Hardware (BB&N Pager)
	Dan Murphy; Scheduler, Pager
	Ray Tomlinson; File system, I/O drivers
	John Barnaby; EXEC, date/time
	Ted Strollo; FLIN/FLOUT

================

1964	PDP-6 Single relocation/protection register
1966	BB&N simulated paging in software on PDP-1
1967	KA10 Dual protection registers
1970	BB&N paging box for KA - TENEX
1972	KI10
1973	KI10 Tenex
1975	KL10 w/ KI10 paging
1976	DECSYSTEM-20 has TENEX paging in microcode

================

TOPS-20 Evolution

2/76	1	First release
4/76	1A	LPT, CDR
10/76	1B	Maint release
12/76	101B	ARPA support
7/77	2	mountable structures, quotas
3/78	3	2780, 3780, account validation, subdirs, larger dirs
		merged in ARPA support
4/78	3A	DECnet Phase II, 2060, 2020
4/80	4	performance ctrls(?), tape labels, GALAXY
		ACJ (access control job), RAMP, archiving, execute-only
6/82	5	extended addressing, RP07, TU78, NVT (network virt. terminals)
3/83	5.1	DECnet Phase III
12/82	5.2	TCP/IP support (BBN JSYS interface)
6/83	5.3	DEC TCP/IP interface (TCP: device)

================

TENEX -> TOPS-20 (1973-1976)

Rewrite;
   System Init
   Filesys update strategy
   directory structure
   tape handler

KL Hardware;
   KL processor
   memory parity
   I/O devices
   DTE
   RSX-20F
   BOOT

Additions;
   Search lists
   Logical names
   IPCF
   ENQ/DEQ
   COMND/TEXTI
   BAT blocks
   Backup of root
   PTYs
   Wildcards

Naming;

1970 TENEX
1972 -> DEC

TENEX
VIROS	John Lange called it VIRUS
SNARK
KRANS	(snark backwards -- funeral wreath in swedish)
SNARK	(with forks and hope)
TOPS-20

================

Early TOPS-20 Team;

Software;
	Dan Murphy
	Peter Hurley
	Arnold Miller
	Len Bosack
	Tom Hastings
	Ron McClean (RSX-20F)
	Roland Belanger
	Tom Porcher (?)
	Judy Hall

Docs;
	Susan Porada
	Twig McGee
	Maria Bonsavage

Ed Svcs;
	Claire Grant

================

System thruput;

1055	1.6-1.8*KA
1077	1.3-1.5*KI
1088	0.8-1.2*KL
1099SMP	1.7*KL
TRI SMP	2.6*KL
TOPS-20 CFS = 1.6-1.8*KL


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In article <8rud7t$o46$1@news3.bu.edu>, Phil Budne <budd@csa.bu.edu> wrote:
>There's a photo of the PDP-6 team.

I found a (rather bad0 copy on line at;
http://acomp.stanford.edu/siliconhistory/Ceruzzi/ch7.html

Gordon Bell is wearing a jacket, Kotok is to his right.
Can anyone identify any of the people in the photo?

>PDP-6 development team;
>
>Harlan Anderson, VP of Eng
>       Gordon Bell, System Architect
>		Alan Kotok, Asst. Architect, Logic Designer
>			Russ Doane, Circuits
>			Ken Senior(?), Field Service
>			Bob Reed, Technician
>			Leo Gussall(?), Diagnostics
>		Dit Morse, Software Project Leader
>			Tom Hastings, Dave Gross; Monitor
>			Harris Hyman, Steve Pinar; MACRO
>			Tom Eggers; DDT
>			Bell Segal; Utilities
>			Peter Sampson, Al Blackington; FORTRAN
>			Ed Yourdon (yep, that one); LOADER

....
>I know I have hardcopies (one in a DEC newsletter, and one in a
>glossy anniversary brochure I got Alan Kotok to sign at his DEC
>retirement dinner).

I found it, I'll try and get a better scan today.  Mine may be a
different photo.  The fellow in the lower right is blurred, like
he was moving his head quickly....



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Phil Budne <budd@csa.bu.edu> wrote:

> >There's a photo of the PDP-6 team.
> 
> I found a (rather bad0 copy on line at;
> http://acomp.stanford.edu/siliconhistory/Ceruzzi/ch7.html
> 
> Gordon Bell is wearing a jacket, Kotok is to his right.
> Can anyone identify any of the people in the photo?

The photo also appears in the book, _Digital at Work_.  I don't have
it here with me, though, so I'm not sure whether the caption there
identifies who is who.

> >			Harris Hyman, Steve Pinar; MACRO

I think this should be Piner, not Pinar.

eric


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Phil Budne <budd@csa.bu.edu> wrote:

> >There's a photo of the PDP-6 team.
> 
> I found a (rather bad0 copy on line at;
> http://acomp.stanford.edu/siliconhistory/Ceruzzi/ch7.html
> 
> Can anyone identify any of the people in the photo?

The reprint of the photo in _Digital at Work_ does identity the people.
They are:

  (seated)   Lydia McKalip, Bill Coburn, Ken Senior, Ken Fitzgerald,
             Norman Hurst, Harris Hyman
  (standing) Peter Samson, Leo Gossell, Gordon Bell, Alan Kotok,
             Russ Doane, Bill Kellicker, Bob Reed, George Vogelsang.

eric


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A cursory tour through the various PDP-10 and museum sites turns up
precious few DEC-20 photos, and especially not color ones.  The only
color marketing brochure I have left only a shows the logo and I
haven't been able to find any machine-room photos of our DEC-20s at
all, except the fuzzy black-and-white one here:

  http://www.columbia.edu/acis/history/dec20.jpg

Who knows where I can find some sharp, colorful DEC-20 (esp. big KL)
photos to rival the PDP-10 photos at the Retro-Computing Society of RI?

Thanks.

- Frank


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fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) writes:
> Who knows where I can find some sharp, colorful DEC-20 (esp. big KL)
> photos to rival the PDP-10 photos at the Retro-Computing Society of RI?

KL:
http://simh.trailing-edge.com/photos/decsystem_20.jpg
http://www.stacken.kth.se/~thn/FullScale/f3-3.jpg

KS:
http://www.ludd.luth.se/gallery/ludd1-mII/image03.jpg
http://www.stacken.kth.se/~thn/FullScale/f2-7.jpg
http://www.jfcl.com/pdp10/images/2020.JPG

-- 
Lars Brinkhoff          http://lars.nocrew.org/     Linux, GCC, PDP-10
Brinkhoff Consulting    http://www.brinkhoff.se/    programming


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Ben Franchuk <bfranchuk@jetnet.ab.ca> writes:
> Nice photos, do you have any more information on the systems shown?

Yep.

> > KL:
> > http://simh.trailing-edge.com/photos/decsystem_20.jpg
>  "Is Bigger always better"?

I think this is from DEC's timeline on their former website.

> > http://www.stacken.kth.se/~thn/FullScale/f3-3.jpg
>  "A Computer with a personality"

Model:          DEC-2065.
Name:           VERA.  
Location:       Stockholm, Sweden?
Owner:          Peter Löthberg.
Status:         Unknown.
History:        Belonged to Stacken Computer Society (that's where the
                picture's from), and before that KTH, Royal Institute of
                Technology in Stockholm.

> > KS:
> > http://www.ludd.luth.se/gallery/ludd1-mII/image03.jpg
>   "B - Basement Level -- Bargain Computing for the masses"

Model:          DEC-2020.
Name:           eLinor.
Location:       Ludd Computer Society in Luleå, Sweden.
Owner:          Anders Magnusson.
Status:         In runnable condition, except problem with TU45 and RP06.
                Mostly running ITS.
Peripherals:    TU45 and RP06, obviously, maybe more.
History:        Belonged to Lysator Computer Society, and University of
                Linköping (?) before that.

> > http://www.stacken.kth.se/~thn/FullScale/f2-7.jpg
>   "Look what else you found the $5 junk box special"

Model:          DEC-2020.
Name:           NADJA.
Location:       Stacken Computer Society in Stockholm, Sweden.
Owner:          Johnny Eriksson.
Status:         In runnable condition, except there's no cooling.
Peripherals:    16 lines DZ, 2 KMC/DUP, DELUA ethernet, 2 RP06, 1 TU45.
History:        Ran TOPS-20 while at KTH.

> > http://www.jfcl.com/pdp10/images/2020.JPG
>   "Now for $5,754,999.95 we can't throw in a FREE printer cable too!"

No info.

-- 
Lars Brinkhoff          http://lars.nocrew.org/     Linux, GCC, PDP-10
Brinkhoff Consulting    http://www.brinkhoff.se/    programming


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From: Mike Ross <abaddon@attglobal.net>
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Subject: Re: Color DEC-20 photos?
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On Tue, 04 Dec 2001 22:05:38 GMT, "Zane H. Healy"
<healyzh@shell1.aracnet.com> wrote:

>Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> wrote:
>> http://www.jfcl.com/pdp10/images/2020.JPG
>
>The sad thing is I think this is about the best picture I've ever seen of a
>KS10.
>
>		Zane

There's a half-decent pic of my KS on my website:

http://www.corestore.org/DEC20.htm

I'll try to take some more next time I visit it (Christmas).

I've got a bunch of -10 and -20 brochures, many with colour shots...
scanning is definitely on my 'to do' list!

Mike
http://www.corestore.org
Rangers Catering Corps - 'we boil for the One, we fry for the One'


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Mike Ross <abaddon@attglobal.net> wrote:
> There's a half-decent pic of my KS on my website:

> http://www.corestore.org/DEC20.htm

> I'll try to take some more next time I visit it (Christmas).

> I've got a bunch of -10 and -20 brochures, many with colour shots...
> scanning is definitely on my 'to do' list!

I just looked at your site, and I'm impressed!  That's some computer
collection.  I'd only seen the KL10 page before.  The KS10 pic is probably
the best pic of a hobbyist system I've seen.

		Zane



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On Wed, 05 Dec 2001 03:42:04 GMT, "Zane H. Healy"
<healyzh@shell1.aracnet.com> wrote:

>Mike Ross <abaddon@attglobal.net> wrote:
>> There's a half-decent pic of my KS on my website:
>
>> http://www.corestore.org/DEC20.htm
>
>> I'll try to take some more next time I visit it (Christmas).
>
>> I've got a bunch of -10 and -20 brochures, many with colour shots...
>> scanning is definitely on my 'to do' list!
>
>I just looked at your site, and I'm impressed!  That's some computer
>collection.  I'd only seen the KL10 page before.  The KS10 pic is probably
>the best pic of a hobbyist system I've seen.
>
>		Zane

Glad you liked it; you might like even more the new page I've put up,
http://www.corestore.org/kl.htm - it's not linked through the site
yet, it's just a quick thumbnail page including several new images of
my KL.

Mike
http://www.corestore.org
Rangers Catering Corps - 'we boil for the One, we fry for the One'


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Frank da Cruz wrote:
> 
> In article <3C0EB7E5.D4DEA796@ev1.net>,
> Charles Richmond  <richmond@ev1.net> wrote:
> : Ben Franchuk wrote:
> : > "Henry W. Miller" wrote:
> : > >     Thinkofa 20 year old terra cotta & cream colored coke machine.
> : >
> : > But then I would want Coke!  Yes Dec could of made lots of $$$
> : > if a Coke and Pizza machine was a standard 10/11 peripheral.
> : >
> : How about a standard Coke machine with a DECsystem-20 logo
> : across the top??? Or a Coke machine which is wrapped in the
> : pictures of the -10 and -20 systems???
> :
> Somebody here will know this better than I do, but I think it was
> CMU (or maybe Stanford) where they hooked up their coke machine to the
> network (Chaosnet no doubt) and then had software on the -10 to query it:
> how many are left, how cold are they, etc.
> 
> - Frank
Check here ... Current list of COKE machines on the internet.
Also a bit about the first? coke machine. Yep it was on a 10
so it is not off topic.
http://www-cse.ucsd.edu/users/bsy/coke.html

-- 
Ben Franchuk --- Pre-historic Cpu's -- 
www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html


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How about this link for pix of xds 940

http://www.chac.org/chsds930.html


"Al Kossow" <aek@spies.com> wrote in message news:9uc9r6$c92$1@spies.com...
> From article <bJhO7.720$He.14764@sea-read.news.verio.net>, by
inwap@best.com (Joe Smith):
> > At the Tymshare Reunion, Ernie Vance Socci was showing pictures of
> > Tymshare's PDP-10 systems (KI, KL, and Tenex-KA) from 1980.
>
> Do any pictures survive of the SDS 940's ?
>