Article 1602 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: shellx.best.com!news1.best.com!sgigate.sgi.com!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.wwa.com!news From: jeverett@wwa.com (John Everett) Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: PDP-10 Sighting Date: 11 Feb 1996 15:59:09 GMT Organization: WorldWide Access (tm) - Chicagoland Internet Services (http://www.wwa.com) Lines: 26 Message-ID: <4fl3od$bah@kirin.wwa.com> References: <4fjslb$c77$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pool1-055.wwa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 In article <4fjslb$c77$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com>, 73541.3045@CompuServe.COM says... > > I have recently (4 months ago) had seen a real live 10 system >at a govt surplus auction. I would have bid on it but I had no >possible way to move the thing. It would have looked pretty good >in my garage next to all my VAX stuff though.. > > Are there any more around still in use ? > >Brian. > >-- >**************************************************************************** * >Mail all responses to Brian Roth ai022@freenet.cc.buffalo.edu >**************************************************************************** * It shouldn't be a real surprise, but yes there are -10s still earning their keep. One place is at ADP's Ann Arbor facility, if they haven't all been replaced with SC boxes. Also, I just heard that SPI in Cambridge, MA is still running a KS-10. -- jeverett@wwa.com (John V. Everett) Article 1603 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: shellx.best.com!news1.best.com!sdd.hp.com!usc!chi-news.cic.net!nntp.coast.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.zoomnet.net!news From: pdonini@zoomnet.net (Patrick Donini) Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: PDP-10 Sighting Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 20:50:12 GMT Organization: ZoomNet News Lines: 48 Message-ID: <4flkr1$h9e@news.zoomnet.net> References: <4fjslb$c77$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> <4fl3od$bah@kirin.wwa.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: port-1-01.portsmouth.zoomnet.net jeverett@wwa.com (John Everett) wrote: >In article <4fjslb$c77$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com>, >73541.3045@CompuServe.COM says... >> >> I have recently (4 months ago) had seen a real live 10 system >>at a govt surplus auction. I would have bid on it but I had no >>possible way to move the thing. It would have looked pretty good >>in my garage next to all my VAX stuff though.. >> >> Are there any more around still in use ? >> >>Brian. >> >>-- >>**************************************************************************** >* >>Mail all responses to Brian Roth ai022@freenet.cc.buffalo.edu >>**************************************************************************** >* >It shouldn't be a real surprise, but yes there are -10s still earning their >keep. One place is at ADP's Ann Arbor facility, if they haven't all been >replaced with SC boxes. Also, I just heard that SPI in Cambridge, MA is still >running a KS-10. >-- >jeverett@wwa.com (John V. Everett) We Still have 12 KL-10 CPUs running at Lockheed Martin in Piketon, Oh, in different configurations from Single System to a Quad SMP System. We have been using tem since the late 70's, we have made modifications to them cutting them from three cabinets to three. We have some very special software which would take a long time to re-write so we have looked at several "Binary" compatable systems from the SC Boxes and a KL-emulator running on an Alpha, and several other systems which are still in development. PM Donini pdonini@zoomnet.net !====================================! ! ! ! Patrick Donini ! ! ------ pdonini@zoomnet.net ----- ! ! ! !====================================! Article 2114 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.best.com!news1.best.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.computer.org!usenet From: cz@alembic.crystel.com (Chris Zach) Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: KS10 and third party Massbuss boards Date: 8 Sep 1996 14:10:21 GMT Organization: IEEE Computer Society Lines: 30 Distribution: world Message-ID: <50uk4d$dpp@student.computer.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: alembic.crystel.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.8 Beta(n) Morning all! In my continuing quest to make a KS10 that one can plug into house current (without causing the power meter to spin like a top), I came across a bit of a problem. The "official" drives for the KS series seem to be either RM03's, or RP06's. RM03's pull at least 8 amps and only offer 70mb of storage. RP's pull way too much, and at 220 volts to boot. Then I got to thinking. Here I have a few PDP11's running Fujitsu 2322 SMD drives with Emulex SC03 type controllers. Fujitsu's take almost no current, relatively, and can offer 160//320 mb per spindle with perfect RM02 emulation... Hm....... So, does anyone know if it is possible to put a Unibus SC1x type controller in a KS10 and have it do the disk I/O to a 2322? If this is doable, it would elliminate one power hungry RH11, and several RM03's in my life. It would also allow me to slide 640Mb of disk into the KS10's cabinet, and make this thing a single box computer :-) CZ -- Time to take time For Spring will turn to Fall In just no time at all... Article 4280 of alt.sys.pdp10: Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: An illuminated PDP10 needed for a movie project. References: <7081a1$pvi$1@shell3.ba.best.com> Organization: D Bit, Troy, NY From: wilson@dbit.com (John Wilson) NNTP-Posting-Host: dbit.dbit.com Message-ID: <36279fa8.0@news.wizvax.net> Date: 16 Oct 1998 15:34:00 -0500 X-Trace: 16 Oct 1998 15:34:00 -0500, dbit.dbit.com Lines: 16 Path: news3.best.com!news1.best.com!newsfeed.dacom.co.kr!howland.erols.net!netnews.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.wizvax.net!news.wizvax.net!dbit.com!wilson Xref: news3.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:4280 In article <7081a1$pvi$1@shell3.ba.best.com>, Smith and O'Halloran wrote: >I'd also like to take this opportunity to take inventory of the PDP10s >out there. Model, Location, Contact Name, Status (up, was running, >handsome display, pile of parts). One KL-2065 and approximately eleven KS10s, D Bit Troy NY, John Wilson. KL-2065 status: complete, supposedly working before move, no 3-phase here (hopefully will be donated to a better home soon) KS10 status: mostly in various states of having been raped for parts and/or painted brown, a couple are basically complete. One of the RM80 disk drives has ITS installed on it which was run on another KS10 a few years ago. John Wilson D Bit Article 4278 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: news3.best.com!nntp1.ba.best.com!not-for-mail From: inwap@best.com (Smith and O'Halloran) Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: An illuminated PDP10 needed for a movie project. Date: 16 Oct 1998 10:55:13 -0700 Organization: Chez INWAP (people, computers, cats) Message-ID: <7081a1$pvi$1@shell3.ba.best.com> Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: shell3.ba.best.com X-Trace: 908560519 20620 inwap 206.184.139.134 Xref: news3.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:4278 I received this message today. Can anyone help? >From: "David A. Nelson" >To: >Subject: Need to buy or rent a PDP10 >Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 19:49:24 -0700 > >I need a PDP10 for a movie project. Doesn't need to work, but needs >to light up... Can you help? >David Nelson >Lexsys Corporation >425-844-3898 I'd also like to take this opportunity to take inventory of the PDP10s out there. Model, Location, Contact Name, Status (up, was running, handsome display, pile of parts). Two systems running Tymshare applications as of 16-Oct-98 Model XKL, Fremont CA, Joe Smith (408)922-6220 or Carl Baltrunas (408)922-6206, running TOPS-20, up in our intranet. One system donated to the Computer History Museum Model KL-1090, Mountain View CA, (I need to get their contact info), was running TYMCOM-X when decommissioned, may be missing disk subsystem. -Joe -- INWAP.COM is Joe and Sally Smith, John and Chris O'Halloran and our cats See http://www.inwap.com/ for PDP-10, "ReBoot", "Shadow Raiders"/"War Planets" Article 4605 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: news3.best.com!news2.best.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!master.news.rcn.net!not-for-mail From: abaddon@ibm.net (Michael Ross) Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: Any working -10s today? (not clones) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 08:17:04 GMT Lines: 17 Message-ID: <367e0359.46354176@news.erols.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: IGbIqcxVBOEUwbGZ+wI9VvOfrzgBv7leGodH6oOn8dA= X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 Dec 1998 13:17:16 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.01/16.397 Xref: news3.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:4605 On Fri, 18 Dec 1998 23:39:56 -0800, lgreenwa@cts.com (Lawrence H Greenwald) wrote: >Any real (genuine DEC, not a clone box) -10s or -20s still running today? >For what purpose? How do you keep the powers that be from turning 'em off? > I'm one with a KS; I also have a KL but not complete or working. I have heard reports that there is a working large system (probably KL) in private hands in Sweden - can anyone confirm? I'd also be interested to hear if anyone has knowledge of KA or KI systems that have been preserved - working or not, in museum or private collection. Mike Rangers Catering Corps - 'We boil for the One, we fry for the One' Article 4619 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: news3.best.com!news1.best.com!news2.best.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!master.news.rcn.net!not-for-mail From: abaddon@ibm.net (Michael Ross) Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: Any working -10s today? (not clones) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:09:38 GMT Lines: 21 Message-ID: <367f5334.35793536@news.erols.com> References: <367e0359.46354176@news.erols.com> <75nri0$hrp$1@strato.ultra.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: 9jqFZGKUlGpr1mfYQD5WdWVwSu5rMrFtH+QJS5xEnDE= X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Dec 1998 13:09:57 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.01/16.397 Xref: news3.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:4619 On Tue, 22 Dec 98 09:51:26 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >>I'm one with a KS; I also have a KL but not complete or working. I >>have heard reports that there is a working large system (probably KL) >>in private hands in Sweden - can anyone confirm? > > >Is that the one that's in a parking lot? > Confused. I'd heard ???Uppsala University??? had a KL/KI/KA up and running - or rather their computer club did - something of that nature. Mike Rangers Catering Corps - 'We boil for the One, we fry for the One' Article 4622 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: news3.best.com!news1.best.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.95.128.196!news-nyc.telia.net!masternews.telia.net!news.algonet.se!pepsi.tninet.se!not-for-mail From: "Peter Hendén" Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: Any working -10s today? (not clones) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 23:32:09 +0100 Organization: Teknisk Dokumentation AB Lines: 37 Message-ID: <75p6li$cbc$1@cubacola.tninet.se> References: <367e0359.46354176@news.erols.com> <75nri0$hrp$1@strato.ultra.net> <367f5334.35793536@news.erols.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: du127-147.ppp.algonet.se X-Trace: cubacola.tninet.se 914365938 12652 195.100.147.127 (22 Dec 1998 22:32:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@algo.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Dec 1998 22:32:18 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: news3.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:4622 Michael Ross wrote: >On Tue, 22 Dec 98 09:51:26 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote: >>>I'm one with a KS; I also have a KL but not complete or working. I >>>have heard reports that there is a working large system (probably KL) >>>in private hands in Sweden - can anyone confirm? >> >> >>Is that the one that's in a parking lot? >> >Confused. > >I'd heard ???Uppsala University??? had a KL/KI/KA up and running - or >rather their computer club did - something of that nature. In their member newsletter Uptime (Issue 1) from 1995, the Computer society of Upsala University - Update - claims to have two DEC-2060s. That would be KL-20s. Their names were AIDA and CARMEN. The url is http://www.update.uu.se/uptime/1995/1/ . (It's in Swedish). Their website contains a map claiming that these are still there - crammed into a corner of their terminal room. URL of map: http://www.update.uu.se/admin/maps/Termrum.html. That page was last updated in Feb of 1997. Something tells me - don't ask what - that at least one of those beasts is actually a 2065. It's a pity they haven't the resourses to keep them running, though. Regards, Peter -- Peter Hendén http://www.algonet.se/~phenden ICQ: 14672398 Teknisk Dokumentation AB http://www.tdab.com Article 4634 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: news3.best.com!news2.best.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!tfl450.tfl.hk-r.se!news.ifm.liu.se!lien From: lien@lysator.liu.se (Jan Lien) Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: No swedish PDP10 running Date: 25 Dec 1998 19:10:57 GMT Organization: Linköping University, Sweden Lines: 9 Message-ID: <760o01$5ra$1@newsy.ifm.liu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: tintin.lysator.liu.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) Xref: news3.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:4634 There is currently no PDP10 system running in Sweden. However, some old systems, like a KA-10, 3 x KI-10, and various KL and KS 10 systems are "preserved" (read: in storage). There is a KS-10 system runnable (but not running) at the Stacken computer club. Jan Lien Article 4641 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: news3.best.com!news2.best.com!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!news-peer-europe.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news.netg.se!uio.no!news.kth.se!not-for-mail From: Mårten Zimmerman Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: Any working -10s today? (not clones) Date: 30 Dec 1998 10:42:54 +0100 Organization: Stacken Computer Club Lines: 14 Sender: e96_mzi@zafir.e.kth.se Message-ID: References: <367e0359.46354176@news.erols.com> <75nri0$hrp$1@strato.ultra.net> <367f5334.35793536@news.erols.com> <75p6li$cbc$1@cubacola.tninet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: zafir.e.kth.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-didu: didu-didam-didej X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Xref: news3.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:4641 >>>>> "PH" == Peter Hendén writes: PH> It's a pity they haven't the resourses to keep them running, PH> though. It isn't a matter of resources it's a matter of time. We have a 2020 and a PDP 11/70. They run, but you have arrange some more cooling and some time. /Mårten -- Justice separated from love is revenge Henry Miller Article 4642 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: news3.best.com!news2.best.com!newshub.northeast.verio.net!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!news-peer-europe.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news.netg.se!uio.no!news.kth.se!not-for-mail From: Mårten Zimmerman Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: Any working -10s today? (not clones) Date: 30 Dec 1998 10:38:42 +0100 Organization: Stacken Computer Club Lines: 17 Sender: e96_mzi@zafir.e.kth.se Message-ID: References: <367e0359.46354176@news.erols.com> <75nri0$hrp$1@strato.ultra.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: zafir.e.kth.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-didu: didu-didam-didej X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Xref: news3.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:4642 >>>>> "j" == jmfbahciv writes: >> I'm one with a KS; I also have a KL but not complete or >> working. I have heard reports that there is a working large >> system (probably KL) in private hands in Sweden - can anyone >> confirm? There is a 3-CPU KI10 that still runs if you put your hands on the right spots. That is the only working system to my knowledge in Sweden. And yes, it has seen some days at parkinglots. But that was a while ago. /Mårten -- Justice separated from love is revenge Henry Miller Article 4649 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: news3.best.com!news2.best.com!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!207.155.183.80.MISMATCH!global-news-master From: Christopher G. Petrilli Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: Any working -10s today? (not clones) Date: 31 Dec 1998 08:05:29 PST Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 16 Message-ID: <76g7c9$na9@chronicle.concentric.net> References: <367e0359.46354176@news.erols.com> <75nri0$hrp$1@strato.ultra.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dworkin.amber.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA 970424; i386 FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE] Xref: news3.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:4649 Mårten Zimmerman wrote: > >>>>> "j" == jmfbahciv writes: > There is a 3-CPU KI10 that still runs if you put your hands on the > right spots. That is the only working system to my knowledge in > Sweden. And yes, it has seen some days at parkinglots. But that was a > while ago. When I worked iwth him, I believe Peter Lothberg (add your own diacriticals ;-) had a KL-10 running at his house, but perhaps it was only a KS-10... Chris -- | Christopher Petrilli | petrilli@amber.org Article 4652 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: news3.best.com!news2.best.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!tfl450.tfl.hk-r.se!news.ifm.liu.se!lien From: lien@lysator.liu.se (Jan Lien) Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: No Swedish machines Date: 2 Jan 1999 19:05:14 GMT Organization: Linköping University, Sweden Lines: 12 Message-ID: <76lqla$idi$1@newsy.ifm.liu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: tintin.lysator.liu.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) Xref: news3.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:4652 Zimmerman just stated that KI-10 was runnable in Sweden. He does not understand the fact that these machines are STORED in a warehouse. There is a lot of shitty work to be carried out just to get them out, find the parts, and that does not even include building a computer room, or finding the power. Facts: ONE runnable KS-10 in Sweden. 1 x KA, 3 x KI, many x KL, some KS symstems in storage in Sweden. The ones in storage are NOT runnable right now. They can be fixed if anyone has much money. Article 4653 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: news3.best.com!news1.best.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!news.shore.net!news.ultranet.com!not-for-mail From: "Carl R. Friend" Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: No Swedish machines Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 12:29:04 -0500 Organization: as little as possible! Lines: 48 Message-ID: <368FA8E0.7AE2BD34@stoneweb.com> References: <76lqla$idi$1@newsy.ifm.liu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: zephyr.ultranet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@ultra.net X-Ultra-Time: 3 Jan 1999 17:28:40 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.29 i586) Xref: news3.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:4653 Jan Lien, in article nr.<76lqla$idi$1@newsy.ifm.liu.se>, wrote: > > Zimmerman just stated that KI-10 was runnable in Sweden. He > does not understand the fact that these machines are STORED > in a warehouse. There is a lot of shitty work to be carried > out just to get them out, find the parts, and that does not > even include building a computer room, or finding the power. As someone who restores old iron for a hobby, I can state with some degree of authority that it can be a real crapshoot trying to get a machine running that has been "stored" for many years. My most recent project was a PDP-12 which sat idle for about 8 years; I'm still kicking bugs out of it, but overall it's surprisingly healthy. For comparison, the PDP-12 has a single backlane about 2/3 the size of the KI backplane (of which there are two). In the case of the KIs, the power supply filter capacitors may have deteriorated by now and might require replacement (linear supplies - no switchers). There's a lot of work to be done even before you try to put power to a system, too. Just verifying that a machine is "all there" can take several hours, especially in the case of a machine like a KI-10 which has close to a thousand boards it it. Then there are the "fun" things that can happen over time (and movement) to wire-wrap panels. And the jumper cables between the two backplanes. And trying to find memory and peripherals.... You get the drift. Getting a -10 into runnable condition (leaving out the little KS-10) is a major undertaking - much more that plugging it in and flipping the power switch. > Facts: ONE runnable KS-10 in Sweden. 1 x KA, 3 x KI, > many x KL, some KS symstems in storage in Sweden. The ones > in storage are NOT runnable right now. They can be fixed > if anyone has much money. The important thing is that they are safe and preserved in a state which will allow them to be restored in the future. That is the all-important "first step" -- that they not go for scrap the way so many of their brethren did. -- ______________________________________________________________________ | | | | Carl Richard Friend (UNIX Sysadmin) | West Boylston | | Minicomputer Collector / Enthusiast | Massachusetts, USA | | mailto:carl.friend@stoneweb.com | | | http://www.ultranet.com/~crfriend/museum | ICBM: N42:22 W71:47 | |________________________________________________|_____________________| Article 6161 of alt.sys.pdp10: Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Path: news3.best.com!news2.best.com!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news.new-york.net!news.decus.org!eisner!umbricht From: umbricht@eisner.decus.org (Michael Umbricht) Subject: RCS open house (DECSYSTEM-20) Nntp-Posting-Host: eisner.decus.org Lines: 18 Organization: DECUServe Message-ID: <1999Nov5.194100.1@eisner> X-Trace: news.decus.org 941848895 4110 UMBRICHT [216.44.122.34] Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 00:41:00 GMT Xref: news3.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:6161 The Retro-Computing Society of RI will be featuring the DECSYSTEM-20 as the topic of our November open house. We will be doing some work on our 2020 and 2065 which we recently acquired. Both systems are in need of much work. It is our goal to restore these machines to functional condition. We are in need of the entire board set for the pdp-11/40 console on the 2065. Please contact us if you know where we might obtains one or more of these boards. RCS is located in Providence, Rhode Island. The open house is Saturday, November 20th from 10am - 4:30pm. The event is free, and open to the public. For more information and directions, see http://www.osfn.org/rcs/ or send email to rcs@osfn.org -mikeu Article 7879 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: news3.best.com!news2.best.com!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!cyclone.swbell.net!news.pacbell.net.POSTED!panaflex From: panaflex@fitzharris.com (Sean Weitzel) Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: need help locating L0072 super hex module Message-ID: Organization: lffltd Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.2.0 Lines: 7 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:19:49 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.192.47.85 X-Complaints-To: abuse@pacbell.net X-Trace: news.pacbell.net 954544775 63.192.47.85 (Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:19:35 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:19:35 PST Xref: news3.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:7879 I still maintain one of these machines... a KL-10.. we are in dire need of an L0072 super hex module... if anyone can provide any leads to one, it would be GREATLY appreciated.. thanks -sean weitzel Article 8302 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: news3.best.com!news2.best.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!uchinews!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news3.cac.psu.edu!usenet From: bjj@arlvax.arl.psu.edu Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10,comp.sys.dec,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: light bulbs for DEC front panels Date: Tuesday, 25 APR 2000 21:27 EDT Organization: Applied Research Lab Lines: 12 Message-ID: <8e5h88$1bd0@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> References: <8dtj3n$fse@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: netmon.arl.psu.edu X-Newsreader: VMS TPU/News Xref: news3.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:8302 comp.sys.dec:58897 alt.folklore.computers:155703 In article , "The Bakers" writes: >Whatever happened to the PSU HCL/ECL PDP-10 ? > >Did it end up at Salvage ? Is it still in the basement of EEW ? The KA10 was still running perfectly in 1994 with many years of spare parts remaining. Unfortunately it was an embarrassment to management. It was torn apart. The wirewrap backplane from one of the two CPU cabinets went to a DEC serviceman's garage wall. The rest was just disposed of. All I have left is an image copy of its disk packs, but that's all I need to bring it back to life some day (given a softare KA10 emulater). Article 1874 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news1.best.com!newsfeed.mathworks.com!panix!news.panix.com!panix3.panix.com!not-for-mail From: n1ist@panix.com (Michael Ardai) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: Shutdown of *nearly* last DECSYSTEM-20 (was Re: Shutdown of last Multics site) Date: 2 Nov 2000 15:11:53 -0500 Organization: Utopia Planetia Shipyards - Mars Lines: 16 Message-ID: <8tshq9$h65$1@panix3.panix.com> References: <3A003D27.543451A3@multicians.org> <8tpfdv$7hs$3@bob.news.rcn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com X-Trace: news.panix.com 973195914 346 166.84.0.228 (2 Nov 2000 20:11:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Nov 2000 20:11:54 GMT Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.folklore.computers:9574 alt.sys.pdp10:1874 In article , Eric Smith wrote: -I met someone at a site that shut down their DECSYSTEM-20 within the -last 60 days. Now I only know of one system still running (not counting -XKL machines, which run TOPS-20 but are not DECSYSTEM-20s). - Possibly the Cambridge MA school system. I know we gave ours to them as a spare when we decommisioned it. Actually, the story I have heard is that we traded it in for a VAX 780 years ago, and DEC let us keep it until we migrated our software off of it *if* we kept up our service contract. It took us at least 10 years to do so :-) /mike Article 1934 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news1.best.com!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: Michael Umbricht Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,alt.sys.pdp10 Subject: Re: Emergency Power Off on an S/360 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 19:54:54 -0500 Organization: Ocean State Free-Net Message-ID: <3A09F5DE.82F5D262@shrimp.osfn.org> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 sun4c) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8prklv$epu$1@thoth.cts.com> <968973386.377877@elaine.furryape.com> <49fedb9f89a__fake__address@127.0.0.1> <8qaemc$fh6$1@top.mitre.org> <39F2EF44.729EBE1B@MA.UltraNet.Com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 37 Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.folklore.computers:10120 alt.sys.pdp10:1934 At the Retro-Computing Society of RI we are restoring DECsystem 2065 (KL-10E) See http://www.osfn.org/rcs/ for more info about the group. On the front is a black switch labeled "SYSTEM" on/off and a red switch labeled "SYSTEM LOCK" off/on. The red switch does indeed have a U shaped piece of metal that drops down when you press the switch up (to the off position) which prevents the switch from being pressed back to the down position. But, if you open the door to the cabinet and reach behind the switch there is a slim rectangular gap on the lower right side toward the back of the switch enclosure. By inserting a paper clip you can lift the piece of metal while reseting the switch to on. (I only discovered this just now after I had already removed the switch and held it upside-down...) -mikeu "Alan H. Martin" wrote: > > Joe Morris wrote: > > > The EPO switches on the S/370 and beyond tended to be toggle switches, > > in a recessed holder so that the handles don't protrude beyond the > > surface of the cabinet. The design includes a flat steel spring > > that locks the switch in the OFF position when someone uses it, but > > all that's required to release it is a small screwdriver. > > That reminds me: the emergency power off for the PDP-10 KL processor was > a slightly recessed rectangular rocker switch. Someone can correct me, > but it was rumored to conceal a horizontal pin which would drop and > prevent the switch from being turned on again without field service > first having reset the pin. The rumor was that this was done by holding > the switch or its panel upside-down and shaking... Article 2016 of alt.sys.pdp10: Path: nntp1.ba.best.com!news1.best.com!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.gblx.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.slurp.net!bony.umtec.com!root Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp10 From: Daniel Seagraves Subject: I have a KS10 now! ^_^ Message-ID: Approved: Why bother? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Lines: 18 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:51:18 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.199.189.6 X-Trace: newsfeed.slurp.net 975278172 198.199.189.6 (Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:36:12 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:36:12 CDT Xref: nntp1.ba.best.com alt.sys.pdp10:2016 KS10 serial number 4469. I don't know if it's alive or dead yet. I also got a TU45, and a spare formatter for it. (Can I plug any Pertec Unformatted device into that formatter and use it, or just special devices?) I am now in the market for a Massbus harddisk of some kind, within semi-resonable distance of Peoria, IL. Will trade PDP-11 stuff... "Confuse, annoy, and DEE-STROY!" -- Jet Wolf | "Nothing Happens." -- ADVENT "You'd be surprised what you can live through..." -- Anonymous "...A man can pass his family and his name down through his sons, but it's his honour that gets passed through his daughters. He can see the best and worst of life in his girls. A daughter is something far too precious, and he'll do anything to protect her." -- Reichsfuehrer Siegfried Koenig, _Matrose_Mond_, David Oliver